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- TITLE: Reproduceable Excess Heat -- From sci.physics.fusion
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- +From : nat@netcom.COM (Nathaniel Stitt)
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-
- This is from a thread on sci.physics.fusion. The following articles
- were all posted by Prof. John Farrell, one of the authors of a paper
- published in Fusion Technology, V20, Aug. 1991.
-
- The most interesting claim is of a 100% reproducible method of
- generating measurable excess heat. Note that the heat generating
- process is NOT claimed to be fusion, but rather a previosly unobserved
- physical process.
-
- This repost to sci.physics is by permission of Prof. Farrell.
-
-
- ======= Article posted to sci.physics.fusion on Mon, 4 Nov 1991 21:47:47 GMT
-
- Richard Schroeppel <rcs@cs.arizona.edu> asks why the paper by Mills
- and Kneizys, Fusion Technology. 20 (1991) 65, has not received more
- attention and if there has been any duplication.
-
- 1. The paper was published in Fusion Technology. Not many
- institutions receive this journal--thus, not much attention.
-
- 2. Mills, Kneizys, and Farrell are not calorimetry people. (Although,
- when you get this kind of excess heat, how good do you have to be.
- Furthermore, we had some excellent calorimetry people come in and
- help us.)
-
- 3. Mills and Farrell have tried to publish the theory elsewhere--Phys.
- Rev. Lett., for example. Some of the referees have been favorable
- (very creative, intriguing, and so on). But trying to publish a theory
- that overturns Schrodinger mechanics is quite difficult (as you might
- expect).
-
- 4. Yes, we have had others duplicate the work. One internationally
- famous electrochemist has submitted his results to Nature. As you
- know, Nature has not published **any** positive cold-fusion research.
- My guess is that this work will not be published in Nature either.
-
- 5. I am not at liberty to give you the names of all who have had
- positive results with our system (0.6 M K2CO3 with a Ni cathode and a
- Pt anode). To my knowledge, six labs have successfully repeated the
- work. I can give you the following : V. C. Noninski (508)879-4457--his
- work has been accepted for publication in Fusion Technology. James
- McBreen, Brookhaven National Labs (Upton, NY).
-
- 6. The work reported in Fusion Technology was essentially a 100 mW
- reactor. We have had a 100 W reactor working for about one month.
- 30-50 W in, that is, (Vappl - 1.48) i = 30-50 W. 100-120 W out. There is
- little or no recombination of hydrogen and oxygen.
-
- 7. This week we should have a 1000 W reactor going.
-
- 8. We have **never** had a K+/Ni system that did not produce excess
- heat (unless we poisoned the electrode). As far as we can tell this
- system is 100% reproducible.
-
- Tips on repeating the experiment:
-
- 1. Use normal water, H2O not D2O, unless you are looking for tritium
- or neutrons. Essentially all of the heat is **not** caused by fusion but
- by some other physical process--namely shrinkage of hydrogen atoms
- from the n = 1 state to the n = 1/2 state. (I know this is hard to believe,
- particularly for someone like me who has taught quantum chemistry
- for 25 years, but life **is** stranger than fiction.)
-
- 2. Ni foil or wire can be used. The Ni should be clean. Handle the Ni
- carefully with cotton or plastic gloves. Do **not** clean the Ni with
- nitric acid or organic solvents.
-
- 3. About 0.6 M K2CO3 is best. Lower and higher concentrations work
- but not as well.
-
- 4. Use a current density of 1 ma/cm2 with a foil or 2 ma/cm2 with a
- wire. Most researchers are using current densities that are **too
- high**. The object is to form H atoms on the surface of the NiHx.
- These H atoms then can undergo a catalytic shrinkage in the presence
- of K+ (or other suitable ion). If a high current density is used the H
- atoms are forced off of the surface. (The Ni does not enter into the
- reaction, it simply is a surface on which the H atoms can form.)
-
- 5. It is important to electropolish the Ni cathode before beginning the
- calorimetry. That is, run the electrolysis (preferably in the calorimetry
- cell) for about half an hour to an hour with the Ni as the anode and the
- Pt as the cathode.
-
-
- Other possible systems:
-
- Thousands of other systems are possible. Unfortunately, most of these
- are ions or ion combinations that are difficult or impossible to make.
- We have tried many of the chemically reasonable ones and the K+
- system works best. Pd2+/ Li+ works, but not as well. Note Pd2+, not
- Pd metal. We believe that to the extent that Pd/Li+ works, it is Pd2+
- on or near the surface of the Pd that is the active species. Rb+ works,
- but not as well. Li+, Na+, Cs+ do not work. Ti2+ does work. Here
- again, to the extent that Ti/D2 gives neutrons, we believe that the
- active species is Ti2+. (Whenever neutrons are given off, enormous
- amounts of heat are given off as well. The heat does not come from
- the fusion itself but from shrinkage of the H atoms or D atoms to a size
- sufficiently small that fusion can occur. As far as we can tell, only an
- extremely small fraction of the atoms shrink sufficiently for fusion to
- occur.)
-
-
- John Farrell
- Franklin & Marshall College
-
-
-
- ======= Article posted to sci.physics.fusion on 8 Nov 91 15:53:43 GMT
-
- John Moore asks:
-
- >What is the source of energy in this system?
-
- Hydrogen energy levels are given by E(n) = -13.6 eV/n**2.
- H(n = 1) is at -13.6 eV. Assume, for a moment, the wildly impossible--
- that n can not only = 1, 2, 3, ... but that n = 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, ... .
- Then, H(n = 1/2) is at 4(-13.6 eV) = -54.4. Thus, the energy difference
- between the two states is 40.8 eV. That is, a 40.8 eV photon should be
- given off in going to the n = 1/2 state.
-
- At -54.4 eV this atom, should it exist, would be *very stable*. After all,
- the ionization energy of He is 24.6 eV. That is, this atom should be
- **extremely stable** and very small-- r = (1/2) of the Bohr radius.
- There would be no cooling when the electrolysis is stopped. The only
- way to get the atom to return to the n = 1 state is for it to absorb a 40.8
- eV photon.
-
- One can observe these 40.8 eV (and higher energy) transitions by
- putting dental film next to the Ni cathode. You have to remove the
- film from the plastic and from the cardboard wrapping (in a dark
- room). The film must be wrapped in water tight material, but thin (so
- that the 40.8 eV photons can penetrate). (A condom works fine.) The
- whole experiment must be done in a dark room or dark container.
- Suitable controls must be used--like Na2CO3 instead of K2CO3.
- Electrolyze for a week or so, you will observe dark spots on the film
- (K2CO3 solution only) indicating hot spots on the
- cathode. (This is, of course, not conclusive proof of these lower energy
- states for hydrogen but we are getting there.)
-
-
- >What are the values of Vappl and I (in the 100 W reactor)?
-
- Vappl = 4 volts I = 20 amps We used a Kepco constant current
- power supply, Model ATE6-50M. This requires about 2000 meters
- of 0.127 mm diameter Ni wire (Johnson Matthey). We used
- platinized Ti mesh anodes.
-
- This is about 50 W, (4-1.48)20 = 50 W. At 50 W we get about 120 W
- out. (We applied no correction for heat taken away by the escaping
- gases, which is considerable, so the actual output is probably greater
- than 120 W.
-
- Notes:
-
- 1. When you run 100-200 mW reactors you have to use a well
- insulated container with a cell constant of at least 20 C/watt. We used
- small dewar flasks.
-
- 2. When you run a 100 W reactor you need a less well insulated cell--
- about 0.5 C/watt. We use a large nalgene beaker with a fitted nalgene
- lid (with holes for letting the gases escape).
-
-
- John Farrell
- Franklin & Marshall College
-
-
- ======= Article posted to sci.physics.fusion on 11 Nov 91 15:39:58 GMT
-
- Chuck Sites asks:
-
- 1. Have you run any AC experiments?
-
- Answer. We have **pulsed** the voltage and current. We vary the
- voltage in a (almost) square wave. We get a lot more heat this way, but
- this introduces another complication in calculating the excess heat. At
- this point, we would prefer that anyone who wants to duplicate these
- results use constant current or constant voltage or, better yet, constant
- power.
-
- 2. Are any salts formed on the cathode or anode?
-
- Answer. The only noticeable salt formation is at the liquid/air interface
- as the liquid level lowers. Also, in the 100W reactor, evolving gases
- carry electrolyte out of the cell and we get salt formation on the exit
- holes and so on.
-
- 3. Several months back you mentioned KCl as an electrolyte. Do you
- think this is still a good electrolyte to reproduce your H2O experiments.
-
- Answer. KCl works, but we don't get as much heat as with K2CO3. In
- addition, chloride gas is produced (with KCl) and eventually the
- cathode performance is affected. In general, -2 anions work better than
- -1 anions.
-
- 4. How far into and away from the metal/liquid interface do you expect
- the formation of H(n = 1/2) to exist. In other words when does the
- transition from this state to the metal band state occur, or the
- electrolyte conduction states?
-
- Answer. We believe that this phenomenon is a surface effect. Two K+
- ions must be very close to a H(n=1) atom. H (n=1) atoms are formed at
- the surface of the cathode and K+ ions are drawn there because the
- cathode is negatively charged. Accordingly, the H(n = 1/2) atoms are
- produced at the electrolyte/metal interface. Unfortunately, we do not
- know the fate of these atoms. They can undergo additional transitions,
- n = 1/3, 1/4 etc, but this simply begs the question. Remember, these
- atoms will be extremely stable (that is, inert) and very small (about 1/8
- the size of a H(n=1) *atom*. At the moment, we are searching for
- them in the evolved gases. The hydrogen to oxygen ratio will not be
- 2:1 if we are correct because some of the hydrogen produced will be
- H(n=1/2) and will not form H2 (because H(n=1/2) is so stable).
-
-
- John Farrell
- Franklin & Marshall College
-
-
-
- ======= Article posted to sci.physics.fusion on 11 Nov 91 15:43:40 GMT
-
- David Taylor asks:
-
- 1. On page 72 of the paper published in Fusion Technology, v20, Aug.
- 1991, Mills states: "The removal of negative Fourier components of
- energy m X 27.2 eV, where m is an integer, gives rise to a larger positive
- electric field inside the spherical shell, which is a time-harmonic
- solution of Laplace's equations in spherical coordinates. In this case, the
- radius at which force balance and nonradiation are achieved is a(sub 0) /
- (m+1), where m is an integer. In decaying to this radius from the
- ground state, a total energy of [(m+1)(m+1) - 1] X 13.6 eV is released. This
- process is hereafter referred to a hydrogen emission by catalytic thermal
- electronic relaxation (HERTER)." Mills then gives examples of some
- catalysts that can be used (K, Li/Pd, Ti) to cause resonant shrinkage. He
- also lists the potentials of the resonating cavities, which vary from 27.28
- to 27.54 eV. How close to the 27.2 eV value does one have to be? If not
- exactly on, why not?
-
- Answer. The energy has to be the same as the potential energy of an
- electron in tne n = 1 state of the hydrogen atom--at the actual site of the
- hydrogen atom that is to undergo the transition. Published ionization
- energies of atoms and ions are for the **gas** phase. In solution these
- ions are hydrated or otherwise chelated and the ionization energy will
- be somewhat different than in the gas phase. In addition, the ions may
- have some velocity relative to the hydrogen atom. Finally, the energy
- will be affected by the electric field (and possibly the magnetic field) of
- the electrode. Thus, we allowed some leeway.
-
- 2. Doesn't both potassium and hydrogen exist in the required states in
- seawater? What about other reaction chains where all the products
- exist simultaneously and can combine to produce resonator cavities of
- ~ 27.2 eV?
-
- Answer. Most of the hydrogen in seawater is in H2O, HCO3-, and so
- on. Not much hydrogen in seawater exists as **hydrogen atoms**.
- Furthermore, The hydrogen atoms must be in close proximity to
- **two** K+ ions, probably at a specific distance.
-
- 3. None of the equations that describe the reaction used for this
- research (potassium carbonate) mention the platinum anode. Is it
- really necessary to use such an expensive piece of wire, or would
- copper serve as well? If copper would be bad (for cathode muck buildup
- or other reasons), would platinum electroplated over copper work OK?
- How about using nickel for both the cathode and the anode and
- running high frequency AC?
-
- Answer. It is not necessary to use Pt. But you have to use something
- that will not go into solution and gum up the cathode. Recently we
- have been using platinized Ti which is much cheaper than Pt. We
- have used Ni/Ni. It works, but Ni is transferred form the anode to the
- cathode.
-
-
- 4. Do the equations for D hold for plain old H? (I assume they do, since
- the extra neutron wouldn't do anything to the charge radius or
- whatever.)
-
-
- Answer. Yes.
-
- 5. When deuterium is used, tritium and protons are produced. What
- happens when plain old hydrogen is used (as suggested in the recent
- post on repeating the experiment)?
-
- Answer. If you mean --are any nuclear products formed? We don't
- know. We hope not.
-
- Paul Dietz asks:
-
- In electrolysis in carbonate solution, can't peroxycarbonate ions be
- produced? Would their recomposition account for the extra heat?
-
- Answer. We titrated the solutions after one month of operation and
- found no change in the carbonate concentration.
-
-
- John Farrell
- Franklin & Marshall College
-
-
-
- ======= Article posted to sci.physics.fusion on Mon, 11 Nov 1991 20:25:59 GMT
-
- Michael Robinson asks:
-
- >So, lets just say, for the sake of amusement, we managed to accumulate
- >a liter or so of, say, H(n=1/8), and explosively compressed it. Would it
- >go boom?
-
- No.
-
-
- Richard Mathews had several question about the angular momenta of
- the fractional quantum states.
-
- We haven't specifically looked at this aspect yet. But I can give a brief
- answer as to why it is so difficult to get to the fractional quantum states.
- We call the ground state, the n = 1 state, the "no photon state". The
- electron in H(n =1) is a spherical shell (infinity ttin) at the Bohr
- radius, a(sub zero)--kind of like a soap bubble. (Note the the electron is,
- fundamentally, two-dimensional.) When H(n = 1) absorbs a photon,
- the photon is trapped (in the cavity). The electric field of the trapped
- photon reduces the electric field in the cavity. That is, in the n = 2 state
- the electric field caused by the proton is +1, the electric field of the
- photon is -1/2, and the **effective** electric field (or nuclear charge) is
- +1/2--the atom is twice as big. That is, the radius is now 2 x a(sub zero).
- In the n = 3 state, the effective nuclear charge is +1/3 and the radius is 3
- x a(sub zero)--the decrease in the nuclear charge is caused by the electric
- field of the trapped photon. When the effective nuclear charge is zero,
- r = infinity and the electron is ionized (the electron is now a *two-
- dimensional* plaee wave).
-
- In order to get to the n = 1/2 state, ome must remove electric field from
- the cavity such that the effective nuclear charge is +2. That, is you
- have to increase the **effective** nuclear charge from +1 to +2. This
- requires the removal of 27.2 eV of energy and can be accomplished by
- removal of negative Fourier components of the electric field of the
- proton.
-
- Note that when you absorb a photon, the photon must be of the correct
- energy--quantized (quantization comes from the size of the cavity, not
- from an intrinsic property of small particles). The photon is still there,
- however, and can be ejected with a return to the "no photon state".
- What are the conditions that will allow us to remove 27.2 eV of energy
- from the electric field of the proton? Good question! All we know
- now is that you must have, nearby, an energy hole of 27.2 eV.
-
- Take Ti2+ as an example:
-
- Ti2+ = Ti3+ + e- IE = 27.49 eV
-
- Is 29.49 eV close enough? Maybe. This is a gas phase IE. Plus, the
- atoms have kinetic energy. What happens to the Ti3+ and the
- electron? We don't know.
-
- The Pd2+/Li+ system is cleaner:
-
- Pd2+ = Pd3+ + e- +32.93
- Li+ + e- = Li -5.39
- __________________________
- Pd2+ + Li+ = Pd3+ + Li 27.54 eV
-
- In this case, the electron is taken care of and the Pd3+/ Li would
- immediately form Pd2+ and Li+ with -27.54 eV **released**. Thus, we
- could have a catalytic system where Pd2+ and Li+ is an energy hole of
- 27.54 eV that regenerates itself.
-
- K+ to K and K+ to K2+ is another such energy hole (31.625-4.341 = 27.28
- eV). So far, we have found this to be the best system.
-
- In any case, the simultaneous junction of these species is probably a
- rare occurrence in nature. Nonetheless, there may be some around.
-
- This may be my last communication for a while. We have the 1000 W
- reactor going. Sorry , I can't give you **any** more info on it.
- Studying the properties of the new reactor, my normal teaching
- responsibilities , and family matters are more than enough to keep me
- busy. Between the article in Fusion Technology and what I've given
- here, it should be possible to repeat the experiment and observe excess
- heat. A reprcducible experiment that gives excess heat is the most
- important factor in this whole affair. Maybe someone will find a
- trivial explanation--we have searched hard for one. The theory is
- another matter. We know we are battling uphill here. What we really
- need is some physicists who are willing to say, "You are probably
- wrong, but it looks interesting enough to really dig into and to try to
- make it work." This isn't likely until the experimental work is
- verified. I don't blame them--these ideas consume an enormous
- amount of time. I, personally, find explaining the theory over the
- network very time consuming and frustrating .
-
- Final thoughts. I want to thank Dieter Britz, Barry Merriman (sorry
- about the recent criticism), and all other regular contributors on this
- net. Even the nonbelievers on this net are truly open-minded on this
- subject. I read the net daily and I am very thankful to those who spend
- the time and energy to make contributions.
-
- (Part of my frustration stems from the fact that when I paste
- some text from Word onto the VAX letters are (randomly) changed.
- Why does this happen?)
-
- Goin' Fishin'
-
- John Farrell
- Franklin & Marshall College
-
-
-
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